Does anyone remember this? From way back when snail mail was the big thing and no one had even heard of email.
Here's how it used to work. It was Chain Mail. Hey Bob just send $5 to everyone on my list and include your name on the list you send to them and find 10 other people and so on; pretty soon the money will be rolling in. Only difference is it's a computer and the money rolls uphill really fast via quick charges on your CC, and in order to keep getting people you have to keep spending the money you earn to get to the next level, buy some bogus software, next thing you know you're at the top and broke. All your monopoly money is gone. Those who implemented this have all your money. I don't see any other way for this to work.
Wednesday, June 22, 2011
Saturday, June 11, 2011
OneX Make Money Doing Nothing Scams Cont.
At this point parties concerned in this issue had deleted some serious questions and issues I brought to their blog. They offered to debate the issue in my blog however no one has risen to the challenge. I suppose it's a wait and see, but I fear they will not debate the legitimacy of their program, for fear it will be exposed as not real.
Tuesday, June 7, 2011
OneX Make Money Doing Nothing Scams
Ok So here is the latest. A scam by onex thats one x, not Onex the real company, sure its only 5 dollars but really do people really get sucked into that stuff? Here is my conversation with one of their people, a conversation they quickly removed and edited down. They claim they're part of QLxchange a gold and silver trader - they're not. Anyway this is the real conversation - no adlib nothing changed. Notice how he skips answering directly and still trys to sell the scam.
1. Ken says:
June 6, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Ok – Watched all your stuff – You’re doing a good job of selling nothing. You really need to fill me in on the details, because this doesn’t sell. Not if you have higher than a 5th grade IQ, or seriously like losing money. You haven’t shown me how I get paid; all you show is a bunch of charts and hype. I want to know without joining how I actually get paid? I don’t take someone’s word for it. Say I’m in for a little while and want to cash out? Say I have 800k and want to cash out 700k and keep the other 100k moving? You will need to sell me on the behind the scenes stuff or no deal. Pretty Presentations with mediocre at best motivational speakers is not going to do it. QLexchange = Gold and Silver Traders? Think you had better change that webpage.
Reply
o strosdegoz says:
June 6, 2011 at 8:21 pm
You will be paid directly to your e-wallet that is connected to the Payment Processor we will be using to pay for our membership.
This payment processor will have payment and withdrawal options, like Bank Transfer, Checks and Bank Wire this is just a guess because those details are not yet available.
The decision is yours and no one is putting any pressure on you to buy anything, more information will be available as it comes. If you listened to the recorded webinar then
you should already know must of the basics.
Reply
Ken says:
June 6, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Ok – you just answered my question – they don’t have it set up ie … it’s not real. e-wallet? Why not pay directly to my Pay-Pal account? You see to sell this you need to sell confidence and that my friend is seriously lacking in your presentations. I am looking beyond the smoke and mirrors, how can you sell a “business” without actually having any way of Payment set up prior, I mean a long time prior to your launch. Once you say we dont have that information yet – you’re effectively telling me, “We Have No Clue”. FYI I’ll be following this and blogging it.
Reply
strosdegoz says:
June 6, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Paypal does not accept this type of compensation plan, it is against their user agreement, they only accept compensation plans with 1 tier of payments so no multi level.
They do have the payment processor ready but somehow haven’t revealed any information to the members.
Regards
Reply
2. Ken says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 6, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Oh, I Know you’ll moderate that last reply out, it was mainly FYI. I just have a thing for this kinda stuff, and if it turns out legit no worries, Smells very fishey to me though – I’m Out.
Reply
o Ken says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 6, 2011 at 8:48 pm
There’s a reason they don’t accept it – it’s only one step from illegal, you’re in the shady area, you’ll be out and too hard to track before people realize you’ve scammed them. Hope you can sleep well, Karma is a Bitch. MLM is now and always will be a scam, I’ll have fun trashing it on blmbrg and NYT scam alert blogs.
strosdegoz says:
June 6, 2011 at 9:18 pm
At least wish me luck!
Good luck to you and I hope you do well with whatever you are doing or planning on doing.
Regards
Reply
Ken says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 7, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Luck, Really? I don’t need luck my money is based on hard work, determination, and skill. What I take from it is a result of my efforts, reality and history show that if it seems to good to be true, then it most likely is, words that ring true in this stituation. Wait I all I have to do is bring a few people on board and the money will roll in – yea don’t think so, you have no viable commodity – no real tangable asset – not even a real product, you’re going to sell tools to the next level, From a great movie – Go Sell Crazy Somewhere Else We’re all Stocked Up Here.
Just an Update On some research I've been doing on this "company".
1. Ken says:
June 6, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Ok – Watched all your stuff – You’re doing a good job of selling nothing. You really need to fill me in on the details, because this doesn’t sell. Not if you have higher than a 5th grade IQ, or seriously like losing money. You haven’t shown me how I get paid; all you show is a bunch of charts and hype. I want to know without joining how I actually get paid? I don’t take someone’s word for it. Say I’m in for a little while and want to cash out? Say I have 800k and want to cash out 700k and keep the other 100k moving? You will need to sell me on the behind the scenes stuff or no deal. Pretty Presentations with mediocre at best motivational speakers is not going to do it. QLexchange = Gold and Silver Traders? Think you had better change that webpage.
Reply
o strosdegoz says:
June 6, 2011 at 8:21 pm
You will be paid directly to your e-wallet that is connected to the Payment Processor we will be using to pay for our membership.
This payment processor will have payment and withdrawal options, like Bank Transfer, Checks and Bank Wire this is just a guess because those details are not yet available.
The decision is yours and no one is putting any pressure on you to buy anything, more information will be available as it comes. If you listened to the recorded webinar then
you should already know must of the basics.
Reply
Ken says:
June 6, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Ok – you just answered my question – they don’t have it set up ie … it’s not real. e-wallet? Why not pay directly to my Pay-Pal account? You see to sell this you need to sell confidence and that my friend is seriously lacking in your presentations. I am looking beyond the smoke and mirrors, how can you sell a “business” without actually having any way of Payment set up prior, I mean a long time prior to your launch. Once you say we dont have that information yet – you’re effectively telling me, “We Have No Clue”. FYI I’ll be following this and blogging it.
Reply
strosdegoz says:
June 6, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Paypal does not accept this type of compensation plan, it is against their user agreement, they only accept compensation plans with 1 tier of payments so no multi level.
They do have the payment processor ready but somehow haven’t revealed any information to the members.
Regards
Reply
2. Ken says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 6, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Oh, I Know you’ll moderate that last reply out, it was mainly FYI. I just have a thing for this kinda stuff, and if it turns out legit no worries, Smells very fishey to me though – I’m Out.
Reply
o Ken says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 6, 2011 at 8:48 pm
There’s a reason they don’t accept it – it’s only one step from illegal, you’re in the shady area, you’ll be out and too hard to track before people realize you’ve scammed them. Hope you can sleep well, Karma is a Bitch. MLM is now and always will be a scam, I’ll have fun trashing it on blmbrg and NYT scam alert blogs.
strosdegoz says:
June 6, 2011 at 9:18 pm
At least wish me luck!
Good luck to you and I hope you do well with whatever you are doing or planning on doing.
Regards
Reply
Ken says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 7, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Luck, Really? I don’t need luck my money is based on hard work, determination, and skill. What I take from it is a result of my efforts, reality and history show that if it seems to good to be true, then it most likely is, words that ring true in this stituation. Wait I all I have to do is bring a few people on board and the money will roll in – yea don’t think so, you have no viable commodity – no real tangable asset – not even a real product, you’re going to sell tools to the next level, From a great movie – Go Sell Crazy Somewhere Else We’re all Stocked Up Here.
Just an Update On some research I've been doing on this "company".
One of the claims made by a representative of OneX is that its backer QLxchange is a trusted Gold and Silver trader on the internet. To date I can only locate one link to such a company and the website is listed as “Coming Soon”. The site design is the same as the rest of the OneX and QLxchange sites and there is no history information nor are they listed on the Commodities trading lists for any market world wide that I’m able to locate. So it looks a little fishy and I can only assume that the company is a shell to dupe the desperate into believing that there is something real, behind it.
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